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2021 San Juan: Warm Up, WorldSBK Superpole Race, WorldSSP Race 2 & WorldSBK Race 2 Discussion

2021 San Juan: Warm Up, WorldSBK Superpole Race, WorldSSP Race 2 & WorldSBK Race 2 Discussion

agentnico

SBK Race 2 was hands down one of the most intense races I’ve seen in a long time. All the drama that’s built up over the season between Rea, Toprak and Redding just came pouring out on track. Phenomenal riding and controlled aggression from all 3 riders. Wonderful stuff


Disgruntled__Goat

The last race was incredible! Looks like the championship is done now but the last round will be super interesting nonetheless.


wordswithoutmusic

Great race , and awesome camera work, motogp take notes !!!


KazzoaLoL

Just wondering if brittish commentators are considered biased? It's my first time watching WSBK and they're constantly talking about how slow the Kawasaki is and how fast the Yamaha is, and complimenting Redding and Rea for every move.


1573558202

Yes they are and it's pretty annoying but not unexpected. And it's not only in WSBK, other sports is the same.


Disgruntled__Goat

Toseland on Eurosport seems to be constantly ‘encouraging’ Redding/Rea (saying “come on Scott” etc).


Adeus_Ayrton

Toseland took it to a whole new level tonight. Yes, the kawasaki has a small disadvantage compared to the Yamaha *now*, but it's likely because Yamaha brought an upgrade around mid season. Before that, there were races where Toprak was getting a slipstream from the guys ahead and still losing ground.


NaughtyBenny

Yeah I tend to notice the commentators are complimenting British riders a bit more frequently. Most times when they compliment another rider, eg Bautista, it’s more pointing out the straight line speed he has rather than any of his actual riding. Was especially noticeable comparing the way they talk about Bautista and Haslam as if they are getting similar results this year. When it’s tending to be Haslam destroying Bautista in quali and Bautista destroying Haslam in the races. To be fair though, they’re not ridiculously biased. I can see why they would compliment Rea a bit more considering he is the guy to beat in superbikes, the champion is always going to get more mentions. Its only a small criticism.


KazzoaLoL

This was the response i was looking for. It's actually my first time listening to a brittish broadcast and i always see people complaining about the brittish broadcast for F1 for example so your comment really gave me some good insight.


Accomplished-Law4811

The Kawasaki is slower...


KazzoaLoL

Very far from my point.


Accomplished-Law4811

It's not biased if they are just stating the fact which is one of the examples you brought up. The Yamaha is faster than the Kawasaki


KazzoaLoL

Again, pretty irrelevant to my point which bike is actually faster. To me atleast, it seems like they're trying very hard to paint Rea as the big underdog, and then complimenting everything Rea and Redding are doing and calling them by their first name as if they're best pals, made me cringe honestly. Also, Ducati is faster than Yamaha in MotoGP and we can all see how that's going.


mrg9605

Well Redding has finally got it together consistently (but he's on his way out to another manufacture) - handing / grip - not Ducati's strengths (not even in MotoGP but maybe it's improving). Reading posts - yeah, users (and in motogp) will notice bias in the commentators (but like with Olympics, isn't it usually nationalistic or linguistic? inthis case English?). If it were another language, it would reflect their bias? (listen to the WBSK broadcast in Spanish, damn they are energtic...) I think Kawasaki team got screwed with limit an RPMs that they were not expecting, so as those above typed... yeah it's slower this year.... props to Rea's talent (and luck)


mrg9605

wow... fierce.. Top 4... wow....


Adeus_Ayrton

Treble incoming ? Scott looks like he might prevent it tho.


jimaug87

Redding and Toprak are my absolute favorite post race interviews. Both for very different reasons. Redding wears his emotions on his sleeve and tells us what happened in the race. Toprak always just says he did his best, winning makes him happy, and they will try again hard next time.


SikeShay

Toprak is a good lad, I'm a fan again. Disliked him in the past with the whole KRT situation which made him seem like a spoilt child, but turns out that's actually Keenan's influence and not how he actually is.


Motorinoneighborino

KRT didn't respect him or the talent he had and he's always had raw talent on tap. Now, he's with a team that can harness it. He has every right to feel snubbed by KRT. They did snub him. Badly.


Notben5

What happened? I'm a newer fan


Motorinoneighborino

Toprak was part of the three rider world endurance team for KRT in 2018 (it might have been 2019). At any rate, they didn't allow Toprak to ride during the entire race and dropped him from the lineup the night before the Suzuka 8 Hour. He took that as a massive sign of disrespect, and went to Yamaha almost immediately.